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RE: Purge valve keep going off - 3406E - 07-06-2026 I did that partly today, but not under the cab. Those air lines are hard to get to but I will do a deeper dive tomorrow. Also wouldn’t it be audible to the ears if it was leaking? RE: Purge valve keep going off - 3406E - 07-06-2026 Then again I’m thinking there is water in the tanks would a leak cause that? I think the issue is coming from what ever is letting water build up in the tank. RE: Purge valve keep going off - Rawze - 07-06-2026 is it water?... or coolant?. RE: Purge valve keep going off - 3406E - 07-06-2026 Definitely water, no oil in it either. RE: Purge valve keep going off - Rawze - 07-07-2026 you say you replaced the entire unit, filter and all. Could something be plumbed wrong?. RE: Purge valve keep going off - 3406E - 07-07-2026 Dryer replaced 6 months ago, but it did the same thing. Oem bendix. Maybe that was bad somehow ? Idk.I bought another yesterday since there was a deal. Got it for 182 at the dealer, it’s normally 400 for a ab-9 so I took it. RE: Purge valve keep going off - JimT - 07-07-2026 I don't know about that model or where you operate, but I usually replace my air dryer cartridge every 6 months or so. Where is the dryer unit located and is it connected to the compressor via a braided hose? If I remember correctly the braided hose is supposed to help cool the compressed air, condensing some of the moisture before it hits the dryer. Even with a dryer you'll still get some moisture in the first (wet) tank. It's possible even after draining that some water remains. Perhaps the drain valve is getting blocked by debris (happens to my shop compressor tank all the time) or maybe the drain isn't the lowest point on the tank preventing full drainage (the tanks on my peterbilt lay horizontal but drain from the ends which sit about half to an inch above the lowest point in the tank)? I'm not an expert here, but what comes to my mind is that you have an air leak. Some thoughts: * Disconnect the braided hose at the compressor and see what comes out. * Check the control tube between the governor and the compressor for pressure, leaks or blockage. * Pressure test all the hoses and tubing for leaks. (I like to use ptc fittings with a plug on the threaded side along with a digital tire inflator gauge with ptc fitting instead of a tire chuck. Connect to desired tubing, pressurize through inflator and watch gauge for pressure loss). You can't always hear a leak, but the gauge won't lie. * My governor is located on the bottom on my air dryer. Sometimes after it purges it doesn't seal fully allowing system pressure to drop. * You didn't mention what your system air pressure was doing. Your air leak might be further down the line causing total air pressure to drop low enough to kick the compressor back on, especially if 2-3 minutes pass between purging (governor cut-off). Cab or suspension air bags are common culprits that you don't always hear. Excess water in the air tank could reduce tank air capacity, but wouldn't otherwise directly cause the compressor to kick back in. RE: Purge valve keep going off - 3406E - 07-07-2026 (07-07-2026 )JimT Wrote: I don't know about that model or where you operate, but I usually replace my air dryer cartridge every 6 months or so. My dryer is located under the cab above the two air the tanks and on the left side of the drive shaft geniusly done by international. It’s not the braided hoses your talking about, I know of them though. The hose is the regular dot plastic stuff. I’m still asking, will an air leak cause water in air tank? I’m thinking of relocating my air dryer and Putting it somewhere more accessible because where it is, is a pain in a**. I didn’t get to change it yet because it’s been raining all week. Also to answer your question on leaks if I leave my truck over night and start it back in the morning I only loose like 10-15. Also what do you guy’s think of relocating my dryer. I want to put it on the outside of the frame on the drivers side behind steer Tire like all the other trucks. I’m know mechanic either so correct me if I’m talking bs. I added images down below from the last time I changed it. RE: Purge valve keep going off - dieseltech00 - 07-07-2026 Air leaks can cause moisture in your tank as there will be more volume of air going to your tanks. Moisture is in the air so more air equals more moisture. More volume of air will also mean discharge line and air dryer will be hotter which will make the situation worse. However I personally haven’t seen air leaks cause excessive amount of moisture. If you’re getting moisture in your tank you need to replace your cartridge. If your truck is not losing pressure over night I doubt an air leak is your problem, But the following items could still be leaking as they would not drain the tanks. One thing you need to check is your hose going from compresor to air dryer. I would be surprised if it was plastic air line. When them braided hoses get old they can start to leak through the side but you won’t hear it when truck is running. Grab a 1” wrench and take the compressor discharge line off, get a flare fitting and some adapters and hook shop air up to the discharge hose to fill your truck with air. Then get that discharge hose soaked in soapy water to see if it’s leaking. If that’s good then you need to check your small air lines on governor going to both the air dryer and compressor like JimT stated. Check for leaks or kinks. Next you need to check and make sure your air compressor unloading valve is working properly. With your compressor discharge line disconected, start the truck. You should be able to feel air coming out of the discharge port of the compressor. Then with truck still running put 120ish psi shop air to unloader port of compressor and make sure no air is coming out of discharge port. If air is leaking past unloader valve is bad. B2 Bendix document library is also a great free resource. This info is just my opinions. I could be wrong. |